Ep 18 Starbucks with Josh

16 Nov 2017


This episode’s drinks: Starbucks cold brew

Topics we covered:

  • Australian celebrancy laws versus American officiating
  • Marriage equality in Australia
  • Religion and secularism in Australia
  • Why I pushed the “Minister Marie” thing early in my career
  • Why ceremony is so important in our lives
  • How Josh doesn’t “write” a ceremony
  • How Josh inspired me to challenge my style
  • We discuss Field Notes versus Moleskine, Apple versus Android
  • How our backgrounds and personal strengths come into our ceremony styles
  • Why you need to chase your fears and not shy away from them
  • Why Josh loves marriage but not necessarily weddings (what??)
  • Why Josh and I both believe good marriages make for a better world
  • The relationship between relationship coaching and marriage celebrancy
  • I marvel that Australia actually has a life skills class (WHY IS THIS NOT A THING EVERYWHERE??)
  • Why I hate the common vow “I promise to never go to bed angry”
  • How Josh and I have had to navigate the weird ideas we had about marriage with our very patient spouses
  • How the great religions all echo this idea of speaking things into being
  • Our role in the marriage ceremony and how it changes in different cultures and countries
  • I ask Josh how he figures the logistics with all the travel he’s been doing
  • Thinking of the seasonality of the wedding industry as flexibility instead
  • How Josh handles the backlash/fallout from being controversial (hint: will it matter in 20 years?)
  • How the way the LGBT community is treated in the church affected us both personally as well as professionally
  • How stories and context change the way we can understand religion and people

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